Thanks. EVERYTHING ABOUT RECOIL. I've got a youth model .243 here for my oldest boy, and I would like to have him start shooting low recoil loads for deer hunting. A good example is a 110 gr bullet meant for a 30 carbine. I make home loads for just about all my rifles. They are easy MOA accurate at 100 yards and he can shoot 50+ at a sitting with no problem. So I bought a box of hornadys lite recoil and she can handle them. 01-31-2008, 09:27 AM #11. Tried the 95VLD but accuracy fell off after 250yds. I use the Sierra gameking 85 hpbt and the starting load of h414/win 760 which is about 40 grains. I found one a Speer manual but was wondering if there is … 12 soft-recoiling deer loads that will get the job done without punishing the shooter. It's going to tough to lighten the recoil on a 243, given that there isn't much to begin with. Last edited by dk17hmr; 09-19-2008 at 11:30 PM . In proper hands, the .243 can take elk and caribou. My old standard load for 270 is 54.5 grs of 4350 under a 130gr sierra #1820 BTSP. The recoil energy and recoil velocity figures are taken from various sources including the recoil nomograph in the Handloader's Digest 8th Edition, various online recoil calculators, the Remington Shoot! I just loaded some for my buddies kid, he has a NEF superlight youth gun in 243, extremly light right, when the rifle went off I could keep the crosshair on target through the recoil. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. As for the .243 Win. Now we need to get him a javelina tag. She is very hesitant shooting the loads I made for my boy. The end result is a high-performance bullet optimized to provide the on-game results you've come to expect from Remington Ammunition with just half the felt recoil. It was renamed the .243 Winchester and chambered in the Winchester Model 70 bolt-action and Model 88 lever-action sporting rifles. If you don't mention the recoil, chances are that he won't notice either. i have a savage youth 243 rifle for my kids to hunt and shoot. with a 95 grain ballistic tip.. about 2700 fps.. program or calculated from the formula given in the Lyman Reloading Handbook, 43rd Edition. The .243 Winchester’s light recoil is a plus for shooters who are susceptible to recoil sensitivity. For this type of shooting, loads are reduced even more than the hunting loads listed here. Even … Driving the light 55-75 grain pills, the .243 provides the flat trajectory and high impact energy varminters love. this is a powerful and flat shooting(3100 fps) tack driving load. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Jpron, Dec 29, 2018. Barrel is short, 22 inches. I load 17 grains of Blue Dot with 80 grain pointed hollow point boat tail Remington bullets for practice rounds for my soon to be 12 year old son. 22 Caliber 55 Grain 6mm 55 Grain Different dimensions because of the larger barrel on the .243 of course, but otherwise the "same" bullet. Thanks! He has become quite a marksman with it with the light recoil. It isn’t listed in my book but it’s a couple editions old , I really don’t feel like dropping $30 to see. Sent my 10 yr old Grandson out with 87gr Hornady SP over 26gr of H4895 in a H&R 243 last year. Hodgdon receives a lot of calls from reloaders looking for light recoil, subsonic, youth hunting, or informal target and plinking loads. Some load a .22-250 Remington or .243 Winchester down to .223 levels, not only saving per-round costs but also reducing recoil and extending barrel life. In fact, at most Michigan ranges, a .22 centerfire with a modern bullet and proper bullet placement crushes deer. 95 gr sst with max load of h4831sc. First we must recall that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. For a .243 it kicks pretty good. In a single shot it will be a little harder than in her rifle however because the Rossi is going to be lighter. But what, you might wonder, are some suitable “light recoil” cartridges? I'd just go -3 grains from the normal loads you are using. I would not hesitate to shoot a deer under 100 yards with that set up. I made some practice loads for my son with 11.5 gr of trailboss and 100 sierras. I've got 70 grain NBT, 85 grain TSX, 87 grain VMax, and 96 grain NBT bullets on hand. The youth loads developed for hunting approximate pistol velocities in rifles, and therefore, similar performance on game animals. Very light in my Marlin XS7 but gives me .4-.5" 3 shot groups at 100 yards. Trying to work up a light load for a recoil sensitive shooter. Nice light load and shoots bugholes. This is where things get a bit more interesting. I am interested in developing a recuded load in a 243 for my grand daughter to start with. None of the three Custom Lite loads I tested produced more than 8 pounds of FRE! Three shots were about 1.25" at 100 yards, recoil is about 1/2 of a factory load if even that. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. The thing that got me thinking about it is seeing Nosler do these 2 bullets in their Varmint series. Reduce recoil ammo claims to maintain hunting effectiveness out to 200 yards while reducing recoil by roughly half. With hunting season drawing near I thought that I would share a reduced load for the .243 Win. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. The velocity was right at 2500 fps and he dropped a doe at ~ 75/80 yrs with no problems. If the stock fits well, the felt recoil will diminish as well. Could you share your recipes on what has worked? Ideal for training, particularly for women and youth shooters, where even a light standard target load can wallop the shoulder hard. 28 gr of IMR 4198 behind a 100 grain Nozler Partition shot very well in my daughters 700 Rem Youth Rifle. He didn't care for it much. 95 gr sst with max load of h4831sc. If anyone has tried this what was your expeience with it? The .30-30 fires a heavier bullet than the .243, but at a lower velocity and with a smaller powder volume, so they both produce similar recoil numbers if rifle weight is constant. For deer, loaded up 31.5 IMR-4895 & 100 partition (starting load in nosler book). 30 grains of RL 7, with ANY bullet weight you desire... Just went through this yesterday for the son of a friend. When he shoots full power loads he says he can feel the difference and is not interested in doing lots in a row. He's shot his gun with the .243 barrel on it once, 100 grain Remington core-lokt factory round. load, the FRE was 22 percent less than that of a standard full-power load. ” These loads give enough velocity to break a thrown clay target but take a big bite out of the recoil. W, you didn't post your rifle specs. The 4895/partition load is mild recoil and plenty accurate though shoots much higher POI than practice load so need to play around some more as would like them to be close. Well the box is almost gone so it’s time to load. Shooting 80-100 grain hunting bullets, a .243 will anchor a buck with authority. As a tactical round, the .243 is one of the best, offering excellent ballistics, moderate recoil, and stone-reliable feeding from a detachable magazine. For deer at typical Michigan ranges, a .243 crushes deer. These are not full power deer hunting rounds, but rounds to practice trigger squeeze, breath control, how to hold the rifle, work the bolt, etc. Hodgdon recommends taking max loads for H4895 powder and multiplying by 0.6 to get the minimum amout of powder that can be safely used to develope a reduced powder load. producing loads effective to 200 yards with minimal recoil. So I bought a box of hornadys lite recoil and she can handle them. We're getting killer accuracy with the 87gr Berger and H4350 in my grandson's Ruger Mk II stainless. H4895 powder was chosen because it is the slowest burning propellant that ignites uniformly in reduced charges. My boy has out grown it and my girl started hunting this year. Palmettostatearmory, i have a savage youth 243 rifle for my kids to hunt and shoot. Recoil reduced ammo loads If you are looking for ways to reduce recoil without spending a bunch of money on a new rifle, you may want to switch to a managed-recoil cartridge. Any of the managed recoil loads in … Consider about 33g of H4895 with either the 85 tsx or the 95 NBT. This is the first time that I have heard of a 243 recoiling too much. It should not be considered a viable deer cartridge. How does a 243 Winchester, for instance, compare against the kick of a 270 Winchester or 300 Winchester Magnum? He's 10 years old and is pretty lightly built. Just started shooting my new "All weather" Ruger American in 270 win. My daughter is extremely small framed. I shoot 34gr of w748 under an 85 gr bthp. I'm looking for a light .243 load for my son. The balance of light recoil and versatility as both a varmint and big game cartridge quickly led to the .243 being one of the most popular rifle chamberings in the world. I've got a youth model .243 here for my oldest boy, and I would like to have him start shooting low recoil loads for deer hunting. It offers light recoil, flat trajectory and can be housed in a short action bolt rifle, and always ranks as one of the most handloaded rifle cartridges. 243 loads Have found berger 95g VLDs jammed with vit n160 46g exellent in my 1 in 10 twist 243 barrel. Would like to stay in the 100 grain bullet range. Hodgdon has developed extensive data just for these applications. She is very hesitant shooting the loads I made for my boy. A > silencer is little more than a series of baffles similar to a car's muffler > and while they do a fair job at reducing the report of a firearm, do nothing Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The .243 Winchester again gets the velocity advantage running 440 feet per second faster than its rival, but as with the middle loads, the .25-06 Remington is still more powerful with a 405 ft.lbf lead, a 21.69% energy advantage. Heavy .223 loads vs light .243 loads. I make home loads for just about all my rifles. For example, a .243 in an 8.0-pound rifle with a 100-grain bullet at 2960 fps. The gun is a Rossi single shot youth gun. All factors being equal, a light bullet produces less recoil and range then a heavier slug. This analysis indicates the Hornady Custom Lite reduced recoil .243 Winchester load should only be used for training, plinking and hunting Class 1 game. .243 light recoil loads for youth - deer hunting, Re: .243 light recoil loads for youth - deer hunting. Would any powder at a light load weight reduce recoil or are certain powders just lower recoil? My boy has out grown it and my girl started hunting this year. Recoil will be dependent on the weight of the rifle and the .243 load you select. Managed-Recoil® bullets deliver 2x expansion with over 75% weight retention on shots inside of 50 yards and out to 200 yards. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. For years H4895 has been the top choice of cast bullet shooters. Handloading the .243 Win allows you to take advantage of the caliber’s versatility by customizing your loads. > > Dan > > Dan, > > I do believe that you are talking about a muzzle brake, not a silencer. History Introduced in 1955 the .243 Winchester is based on the 7.62x51 military (.308 Winchester) case necked down to .243” (6mm). I’m not so worried on fps as she probably won’t be shooting much over a couple hundred yards. 243 This is a load that served well in a bone stock remington sporter. This is with her Ruger American Compact which is a really light gun and she's really sensitive to recoil, but she shot about 50 of those loads last weekend and said it didn't bother her at all. Get the kid out shooting clays with a 20 gauge, and he'll never notice the recoil of the 243. For hunting loads only I use 38 grains of IMR 3031, and even that it is a very mild load but at 2800 fps it works great, and when shooting at an animal my daughter doesn't notice the additional recoil. > > loads out of the 243 and it should bring recoil down to 22hornet > > standards. Farmboy. The .30-30 Winchester reduced recoil loads are also primarily training and plinking loads; they are, at best, marginal deer loads. View Profile View Forum Posts Registered User Join Date Jul 2005 Location Riverton,WY Posts 27. The .30-30 load showed only a 13 percent recoil reduction, but the .30-30 cartridge doesn’t kick very hard to start with. All Palmetto Reloading Gear/Accessories! Pretty light. My daughter at the age of 14 and a weight of maybe 85 pounds had no trouble with recoil from her Remington .243. Zero recoil, reduced report and accurate. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. 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